DA "Watchers in the Dark" as wound counters


I've been looking for a cool way to keep track of Belial's wounds in my Deathwing army. Instead of dice, I've decided I want to use 3 little "Watchers in the dark."
I figure they'll be like Azrael's helmet bearer shown above, no in-game effect other than to look cool running around with their master.

But here's my problem... I don't know what to use for them. I'm looking for suggestions. I would have thought there was something in the Fantasy range of models that might work but I don't even know where to start.

So if anyone out there has a suggestion or can point me in the right direction... it would be much appreciated. I'm willing to look at any kind of model to represent these guys too.


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31 comments:

  1. The Chaos Space Marine Terminator Lord/Sorcerer comes with something aking to a Watcher in the Dark. Albeit more sinister and with a spike or two.

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  2. Maybe some of the ringwraiths from the LOTR line? they may be bigger than the watchers in the dark, but still smaller than belial?

    I think they would work well, as those watchers are almost comically small, but appear to be kitted out in mini-power armor.

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  3. Cut the face off of a Goblin and use some greenstuff for additional robes/hood. I'd seen this done somewhere but can't find the thread, site or forum now.

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  4. That's an awesome idea for wound counters.

    It's always interesting to see what people come up with other than just dice next to a model.

    As for modelling, misterjustin's idea of night goblins sounds about right. That kit seems to be usable in so many different ways, so you'll find plenty of uses for the spares you get in the box.
    I personally have a psyker squad based off them.

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  5. How about a Star Wars Jawa mini? pic

    Sounds like an interesting idea!

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  6. http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat1200013&prodId=prod1300000

    Maybe one of these. I was thinking specifically the two Imps in robes. I love the familiar models :)

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  7. I second the goblin comment. Cheap and they'll look good. I saw some genestealer familiars done in similar fashion and they looked fantastic.

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  8. I like most of the other ideas better than this one ... but I'll toss it out anyway. What about the inquisitorial cherubs? I'd say the idea to green stuff up a night goblin is probably one of the cheapest in terms of cost ... and pretty easily done. But taking your concept ... the cherubs might fit better for standard marines and any other imperial models ... from guard to sisters.

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  9. Dont have an account or w/e, but follow your work on a weekly basis. Perhaps some of the "slaves" from Scibor Miniatures might do for you (I have them as Servitors for my Chaplain in my BT-army)

    These:
    http://www.sciborminiatures.com/en_,shop.php?art=414

    and these:
    http://www.sciborminiatures.com/en_,shop.php?art=788

    Hope these are perhaps of any use to you.
    Good luck on your project, and just to say, love your work man!

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  10. You guys are phenominal!
    You have no idea how much this helps me out.

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  11. http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/acatalog/QUATERMASTERS_STORE_DAEMONHUNTERS_AND_ORDO_XENOS_32.html

    Look at the watchers w/ the inquisitor.

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  12. obviously you need three squats!

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  13. As has already been mentioned, the plastic Chaos terminitor lord comes with something that should work perfect, I think it's supposed to be a familiar. Also I seem to remember getting a small standard bearer type familiar with one of the old Vampire Count sets if you know anyone who has them kicking around.

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  14. You could also try some of the Warlord Familiar Packs from Reaper Minis. There are some interesting things in there (including Daemonic Teddy Bears). I was thinking about grabbing Pack VIII to make a couple of Cyber-Bird familiars for my Inquisitors and Rune Priest.

    http://www.reapermini.com/Miniatures/Familiar/latest

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  15. Does it have to be a person?

    Howabout some removable swords stuck into a base?

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  16. All of the above comments are excellent. You might also try the plastic skaven plague monks for a more tatty look.

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  17. I've thinking about this myself for a while. Night goblins and Skaven Plague bearers are the models for conversion. Generally though I think the best result would be acheived by sculpting one out of Green Stuff based on Azreal's helmet bearer. Wire sculpt a basic figure and ad robes from there.

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  18. I'd use the sword holder from the chaos lord in terminator armour.

    or the mini rat from the skaven plague monks box. just chop off his nose and green stuff the robe up a bit. (ive seen it done and it would work)

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  19. it's all about the Scibor models. I've got those two robed helper guys. They're sweet! A little large compared to the original helmet bearer, but still awesome.

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  20. Thank you everyone!
    I'm torn as to which ones to use. I'm so cheap that I don't want to spend any money but I may for this little project.

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  21. http://wyrd-games.net/shop/images/P/Witchling-stalkers.jpg

    They come in a pack of 3 and we have them in the store. I think they are pretty cheap.

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  22. It's me again, must see to get an account somehow (I'm not American).
    No problem, its nice if you can do something to help a good artist like you!
    Just remember that the 2nd link I gave you to the Scibor mini's are with four guys and have a scenic base. I also still get the impression that the 2 other guys (1st link) are just a wee lil' smaller.
    Must say that I like those better then the other blister of 4 'slaves' (don't like those priest-like heads :p), plus you already would have a 'helm' bearer in the first place.

    Good luck on your project, will follow for sure!

    Dannis

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  23. I'd go for the night goblin as well. Keep in mind, you really only need 2 'watchers' -- once he's down to 1 wound he's by his lonesome. After that, well he's gone.

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  24. Excellent point Hudson, I never thought about that.

    Well that changes things doesn't it.

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  25. I saw your post and started thinking about it...while I dont buy Reaper models anymore (I used to, just for painting), there are alot of varied options, and they are about the same size or a little smaller that 40k scale.
    I searched through their collection of "clerics" and saw some interesting possibilities. Alot of what I would have chosen requires no or very little conversion.

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  26. Maby new rats or old Eshin rats. Familars sound good but maby for a daemon prince or CSM army. I think you should pick hardest way and make some from scratch and green stuff.

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  27. The High Elve Lions would fit perfectly. Two lions and when they are dead it's just one wound left--> Belial.

    http://www.warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=25654&d=1185190991

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  28. The High Elve Lions would fit perfectly. Two lions and when they are dead it's just one wound left--> Belial.

    http://www.warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=25654&d=1185190991

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  29. If you're not dedicated to the GW cause, those scibor models fit in perfectly with your theme. Alternately, as stated above, some night goblin conversions and/or some Inquisitorial cherubs/servo skulls would work in a pinch.

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  30. I do this for my Dark Angels. I stole the idea from something Dave Taylor did with his Ultramarines, where he created "creepy servitors" to serve as wound markers.

    I used a combination of DA bits, flagellants, and an Empire Wizard kit to build mine.

    Here's a picture of mine:

    http://www.rushputin.com/gallery/v/Miniatures/Warhammer40k/DarkAngels/Creepy+Servitors.JPG.html

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